Louie: That connection, we all can make it. Talk a little bit about that connection you were talking about. We all need to do it. We all need to connect. Easier than others would want to let you believe. They want to make things more complex as opposed to more direct.

Ravi: Yes. There is within us, within all of us, an ocean of peace. I shared that concept in a video, if you are listening to that, you say, well, look, Ravi, you are saying there is an ocean of peace, I have looked within, I see no sign of it. I got up this morning, I looked in the mirror, I don't see no ocean of peace within.

Louie: Yeah.

Ravi: You're just making this up. You're selling me snake oil. There is no ocean of peace. Excuse me. And let me tell you, my spouse has no ocean of peace. So, I could be salvaged, but I promise you my spouse has no ocean of peace within. You go, even a Ravi cannot argue against that.

Ravi: So, this is the example I give. If you watch the ocean, at the surface, the ocean has large waves, very violent waves, there could be a storm and you say, well, the ocean is not peaceful, but if you travel down to the depth of the ocean, if you reach the floor of the ocean, it's completely serene and peaceful.

Ravi: It doesn't matter to the floor of the ocean what is happening on the surface. We live lives where we are held hostage by our mind, our mind is constantly running. It creates these violent waves. The problem is we have lived our life, we have associated our living with the mind and its constant vibrations and its constant waves. We have associated and we have come to assume that is who we are, but that's not who we are. We are the peace at the floor of the ocean.

Ravi: What we have to understand is that these waves will keep happening. When you live in the world you're going to face challenges, you're going to face incidents, and that will create the waves, I can never take those waves away. I can never go to the ocean and say there will never be a storm, so your waves on the surface will be completely calm. That's not going to happen. I can never make that happen. That is against nature. It will keep happening. It has to happen.

Ravi: But if we go beyond the mind, then at the bottom we are going to find peace exists. It is existing in every one of us.

Ravi: Think about the purpose of religion. The purpose, as I see for religion, is to help you calm the mind. You could be someone who doesn't believe in religion and you can still calm the mind. Religion is one way to help you calm the mind.

If you do community service, you go down to the food kitchen and you cook and you serve the homeless and you do it without expectation, you do not expect them to even thank you. You do not expect them to smile because if you say, oh, I served this guy, and he didn't even smile back. That's going to cause consternation. But you say it doesn't matter whether they smile back at me or not, whether they say thank you, ma'am, or thank you, sir, it doesn't matter. I am going to do my bit and I will do it selflessly. And I don't do it because of social media. I don't stand outside and take a picture and tell my friends I was at the soup kitchen.

Louie: Yeah. Look at me. Look how good of a person.

Ravi: Yeah. And then this homeless man is standing. He's hungry. And you say, you can wait a few more minutes, let me get the right camera angle as I'm serving you.

Ravi: If you do it without expectations, if you do community service and tell nobody, you don't call your mother and say, look, mom, I went and did this, you don't try and impress your kids and say, look, kids, take my example. You do community service just for the sake of doing it with no expectations. Guess what happens to your mind? Your problems that exist, when you come home, those problems are still there, but you have a little spring in your step.

Louie: Beautiful.

Ravi: You look at that and you go, yes, problems. Hello, hi problems, how are you? You're still here. I thought you'd be gone.

Louie: Was hoping you'd be gone but you're still here.

Ravi: Yeah, but it's all right. You're an unwelcome guest. It's okay. I just had a break from you, and I can deal with you a little better now because you were getting to me earlier, but now I can deal with you.

Ravi: Religion and devotion, I should use the word devotion. Devotion can help you calm the mind down. Community service, which is selfless, can calm the mind down. You can do philosophical thinking and analysis, you can take a scripture, it doesn't have to be scripture, you can take a philosophical book and you can analyze life. That can help you calm down. These three help the mind to calm down. But the most superior of all of them is the method of meditation. I talked about this with Louie the first time, and there is a video on my YouTube channel and my website.

Louie:  HappySoulHungryMind.com.

Ravi: Yes, thank you. HappySoulHungryMind.com.

Ravi: We all need to meditate. Meditation is simple, it's easy. We can all do it. I know a lot of people who get scared by it. There is nothing to get scared. You will form the habit and over time you will learn to go beyond the mind and then as we go beyond the mind, as we go down from the violent waves, and deeper into the ocean, we begin to experience the stillness that exists in all of us.

Ravi: You have stillness in you right now. You're probably driving somewhere or at work or at home, and you have all these challenges. Your boss is not happy, your kids are not happy, your spouse is not happy. It doesn't matter. All those problems are going on, but deep within, you still have stillness, and that stillness is the most beautiful thing that you possess. There is no greater wealth than your own stillness. Expose yourself, enjoy the wealth that you have been given. Wake up. Enjoy the wealth that you have been given.

Ravi: When I wrote the introduction for my book, I shared this example. I said imagine someone dear to you, say, your mother gave you a gift. It's a box and it is covered with very fancy wrapping paper. Very nice, decorative wrapping paper.

Ravi: You are so mesmerized by the wrapping paper, you spend all the time playing with the wrapping paper and never open the box to see the gift inside. And she has given you a very valuable gift.

Ravi: Now you go, excuse me, Ravi, could you not have developed a better example because only a child, only a toddler is going to play with the wrapping paper and forget what is inside the box?

Ravi: But my friends. Louie's listeners, that is what we all are doing with our life. This material world is just the wrapping paper. We are so consumed by it. The real gift that the Universe, God, nature, life, has given us is this peace within, the stillness, because when we experience it, when we connect with that peace, then we understand the splendor of life. That is the gift. And guess what, we are not opening the box, so my friends — open the box.

Louie: Open the box, open the box. You are just such a beautiful human, and I do want to, I would like to maybe next time, soon, if you've got the time to talk more about meditation.

Louie: I would urge people go to your website. You've got so much information. You've got a lot of videos up on your YouTube channel. Go there. Experience it, get the book and read the book and share it.

Louie: Makes me think of how they always talk about, if you're on an airplane and the masks come down, you've got to put your mask on first, even if you want to help others, because if you're not breathing, obviously, you're not going to be able to help others. If you're trying to get a child's mask on or someone else's mask on, you're losing oxygen, you've got to first, if you want to be good in the world, you need to take care of yourself first.

Ravi: Yes. You must take care of yourself because if you say, my family members are sick, and I have to take care of them. You can take care of them if you are going to be healthy. If you fall sick, you cannot take care of them. You will become a burden on the family.

Louie: If you don't eat nutritious food, you're not going to be able to help feed your family. Caring for yourself.

Ravi: So, you have to do this. You have to become the beacon. It's like the batten. I wrote this book and I talked about this last time, Spiritual Truths showed up. They revealed themselves as I was writing the book. Now, I need to go out and let others know about it.

Ravi: And you have to do the same thing. You are hearing these discussions that Louie and I are having, and you need to share that. You need to share that with yourself, very importantly, because your mind needs to listen to that, and then help others.

Louie: You can help others if you energize yourself.

Ravi: That is all we have to do. We must start helping each other. You might think I'm an author, and Louie was kind, he called me extraordinary.

Louie: You are extraordinary. I'm not going to argue with you. You are extraordinary because you want to share it.

Ravi: I want to share it. And the thing is, you might think I want to share it because I want to do others a favor. That's absolutely wrong. I say this in the book, I say this in the videos. When I share, when I talk about these things, you know, who's listening first? It's not even Louie. It's not even you, our listeners. Who is listening first? Me. The words are reaching my ears before they reach anyone else's ears. And so, the more I listen to the messages of peace and spirituality, guess what, they are leaving impressions on me. So, you, Mr. Louie and your listeners are doing me a favor by letting me come on and share these things so I can listen. And when you go out and you share, guess what, who is listening, you don't have to be worried about, well, somebody is listening to you or not. You don't have to worry about whether they're paying attention or whether they value it or not, because guess what, you are listening.

Ravi: We all have the peace within.

Louie: You are extraordinary. Ravi, you are extraordinary.

Ravi: At your core. You are peace.

Ravi: Be who you are.

Ravi: Be peace. Be peace.

Louie: I just love you. You're incredible. I'm going to be getting in touch with you this afternoon about doing this again soon.

Louie: Again, go to the website, folks, HappySoulHungryMind.com. It's so important. And I should say, never has there been a time like we need it now, but it seems very clear in the world, we need it. We've always needed it and you can access it. It's there, and it's our gift that we all have.

Ravi: Yes.

Louie: Ravi, thank you. I get emotional. Thank you.

Ravi: No, thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

Louie: Let's do this again very, very soon.

Ravi: Absolutely. Absolutely.

Louie: You are extraordinary, and the message is so beautiful and so important for people. And next time I want to talk about some of the responses that I get. Talk more about it.

Ravi: Yes. I would love to hear the responses, what people are saying. If this is resonating with them.

Louie: It is resonating.

Ravi: If it's simple enough, if people can understand and we can start taking the steps, I would love to hear what they say. This is way too important. There is nothing more important than this.

Louie: I agree. Ravi, thank you. You are extraordinary.

Ravi: Thank you, sir. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Louie: Thank you. What an extraordinary human being he is. What a beautiful man. I just love talking with him.